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  1. Doesn't invalidate the argument, Geki. I pointed out why the Non-OML songs were included despite possibly also being popular in past releases. Again: Numb and ITE and legendary level popularity. They're gonna be included WID, LOATR, BID, and ND are both extremely popular among even casual fans. They also showcase Chester as the main vocals and showing his range. BIO is the closer. It's been the closer to main set or encore for countless shows. Crawling was included. Of those, LOATR, ITE, WID, BIO, and Crawling all had some kind of change that made them special and more than just a standard live version. LOATR and WID had incredible intro/outros. ITE had the "mix up the audience" bit they talked about where they would stop singing and have the crowd only randomly. BIO had singalong, Crawling was stripped to piano. They could've used more space, yes, but they didn't and they chose to include just the standard version songs, so the jimmies can cease their rustling. Idk which DSPs you've been listening to but the quality on a ton have been amazing, especially the 2007-2008 ones. Pitt and WPB are excellent. ATS Tour had some with a little "eh" mixing due to the quick turnaround, but the Paris, London 2, and an Australia (whichever one Pez played) show were same quality. Take it up with the band
  2. DSPs and past Live CDs are why they didn't include them. Live in Texas, RtR:Milton Keynes, Red Square, and Download Festival also had all or most of them as well. With the cancelling of the N America leg, they were going to include the OML songs that many fans never had an opportunity to hear live. Numb, ITE, WID, BIO are all gonna be staples BID and ND showcase Chester's vocals Crawling piano was unique iteration.
  3. I'm pretty sure it's just an unfortunate case of Resting Bitch/Bored Face
  4. The jimmies, they are a rustlin' I was personally disappointed that the drummer seemed bored, but that's a nitpick. Really impressed they got John Cena for the video though!
  5. I think it's just because I was more active on fan sites (was on both LPL and LPA) that I saw the backlash from ATS more than OML. People despised Catalyst, got nasty about Wretches & Kings (i.e. "I'm done with LP if they don't have the rest of the album be this style") One More Light's backlash that I saw was mainly in youtube comments and well, that's self explanatory. On LPL, it seemed run of the mill of vocal users who hate everything post Meteora, with the few exceptions of "MTM is the best and everything before and after is awful". Wasn't even on LPA so there's a large chunk of reactions, good or bad, that I missed. Verdict: ATS because it confirmed MTM wasn't a one off before returning to make Hybrid Theory 3. OML has contender as being the 4th "LP is going mainstream pop to appease the normies" cycle with the added detriment of them actually exploring more pop-like songs.
  6. 1) 13 year old article about scuffle in contract 2) Chester saying he may put out songs he whipped up on his own rather than try and get DBS set up again 3) Stretch Armstrong, dude. Also, would like to point out the top review of the album was written either before, or right as Battle Symphony came out, for a grand total of 2 songs. I guess I'm missing something bc these links all seem like stretching
  7. Anyone else get an Apple iPod commercial vibe?? Not my favorite, but definitely cool visual and I'm curious if it was a single shot or he spliced different takes when he ducked down. What's left for videos? I'm waiting for the day I can watch the whole album in one go
  8. I think Geki is the only person I've seen who believes that LP fans are all "you can't say anything bad about any song!" I know I've said that I like one song, or don't like another and never felt attacked. The main thing he is missing in the post above yours was people didn't get angry at him for not loving a specific song, it was because he got hostile and downright mean unnecessarily in his 'critiques'. Seeing Mike speak on Chester at his show, he's definitely not doing everything trying to make a buck off him. If he is, well, his performance has been so damn convincing that he deserves to get the money for "duping" everyone. Granted, WBR is a company, so money will play into decisions (OML Live was greenlit because it would sell enough to not be a loss), but they also understand the damage that would occur if word got out they were using Chester as a cash cow
  9. I'm willing to bet that is like a general idea of people rather than any specific person. Meanwhile, if Prove You Wrong were included on Post Traumatic instead of IOU, the album would've made it to my "Perfect Album" list - Albums where I love every song on the first playthrough. THP and MTM are on there for LP, Sufferer and the Witness for Rise Against, and I think like 3 other albums total. I really love the build up and the bridge to the end is absolutely incredible and makes me hope the next LP album will have a similar vibe. What the Words Meant is taking a bit to grow on me. It's not bad, it's just "yeah it's a good song but let's go back to PYW because holy shit!"
  10. I still can take or leave some of OML's songs. Chester's death only made me see a different side to the songs, giving deeper/new meaning. That being said, I think Geki's baiting based on his earlier post in this thread
  11. ****NOTE****I'm not saying replace or forget Chester in this post**** After hearing these songs, reading the lyrics, seeing his update at the end of Watching As I Fall, and the vibe of the Twitter replies - I think that when LP finally regroups and makes new music, they may archive their work up until Looking For An Answer. Over Again really makes me think performing any song that Chester's touched would be too painful to keep playing and revisiting. They're going to find what will work best for them, but I wouldn't blame them if they took some more time to heal, then "started from scratch" as a five-piece band with maybe a 2 part larger comeback album in a few years. If they went that route, the extra tracks could give them material for a decent setlist, but I wouldn't expect/want them to play older stuff if it's gonna hurt each time.
  12. This year has been rough here too. I had full mental breakdown in May, was recovering from that when July happened. My fiancee made me take a mental health day that Friday. I've pulled away from LPLive for my sanity but still lurk to check in bc I like you all I guess. It's still a long way to go, but I'm starting to see progress. LIGHTS' album Skin&Earth healed so much of my heart, as did seeing Julien-K and my LPLive friends having happy moments. We're still here. We've made it this far, so let's keep setting our own high scores.
  13. One of the most common arguments/beliefs I've seen in recent months and in regards to this show is that Linkin Park is going to continue and sound the same as they did before. They're not. They just aren't. Even when realizing this, I still had no idea how they could move forward, as a different sound, etc, but Hahninator makes some great points - Jon Green isn't the Chester replacement, he's just a person who would fit in with the band. I don't know what they're planning for the future. I hope they (though doubting it's happening this year) "close out" the OML cycle with an LPU cd and start fresh for 2018. It's not going to be the same, never will, but Jon would definitely be an asset to the band and I feel he'd give the proper care to the music and memory of Chester.
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