Mike from Incubus and Mike Shinoda did a live chat with Rolling Stone today. Here are a few of the many things that they mentioned today. These are the highlights:

Concerning the band:
- Living Things has a lot of rap on it.
- Fort Minor is not currently dead - Mike is just using the energy he'd put into that for the LP albums.
- LP management suggested hip hop beat makers and electronic producers for the band during the beginning of the Living Things recording sessions, but Mike decided LP does better when they create their own music.
- Remixes for Living Things that fans subscribed to will be electronic, hip hop, industrial and dubstep. They will continue until they run out of them.
- No art shows planned for Mike.

Concerning the live show:
- The band will play "1-2" new songs during the European Tour this summer, while a good portion of Living Things will be played starting with the Honda Civic Tour.
- Shinoda discussed one story where when they were rotating setlists and he got mixed up with 'One Step Closer' and 'In The End', so he was in the crowd getting them hyped up and looked back and the rest of the band was already off of the stage for the encore break.
- He said Phoenix smashes guitars well but talked about when Brad tried once (gingerly) and Chester had to take it from him and smash it instead.
- He mentioned Dave Grohl's thoughts on the band using backing tracks and vocal tracks during shows and called it "bullshit", saying they "have never done that".

Did anyone attend the chat?

HA that wasn't your question about Grohl was it Mark?

to be fair, synthesizers don't matter, so long as it's not out-pacing the genuine musical/playing talents of the band itself

That's ballsy coming from Mike. Not that I'm a fan of Dave ripping apart other bands, but there is a lot of sources claiming that LP does indeed use backing tracks now a days. When it came to playing ATS songs anyway

But what Mike said was bullshit in reality...they use sampled vocals live and backing tracks for the A Thousand Suns songs...Mike knows that lol. Dave isn't a dumbass. He said that I think at Live 8 time though (2005) so he would be inaccurate then I think but now it's applicable. Foo basically doesn't use anything except what they have on stage; Dave likes "pure balls to the wall rock" lmao

I can honestly say this is the first time I can recall that Mike has blatantly lied in an interview/Q&A. They use prerecorded tracks for backing vocals on a TON of songs from ATS, along with a few instrumental parts as well. Their use of "several tracks of playback" has been confirmed in interviews with LP's production crew as well. Stay classy, Shinoda.

I asked them who was better at Halo LP or Incubus, because I know both bands used to play a lot. They talked about it for a bit but didn't say who was better I'm sure they'll have plenty of time to figure that out on tour though.

is there a transcript of the chat?
i was at lectures and missed it...

LPA has much better descriptions of the chat, but hey. I think it's stupid to say ''Mike SAID FM is NOT DEAD''. Obviously it's dead. It's always going to be dead. I better anything there will never be another Fort Minor album. Mike has been saying that he is focusing the FM energy into LP music since the band started making MTM. 6 fucking years ago.

same could be said of DBS to be fair - much as I would hate that - I think the side-project thing in LP is dead. LP now includes so much it's hard to see things existing alongside it

EDIT: Shinoda and Einziger = M&M

DBS isn't dead. Chester said he plans on recording more DBS music in the future. Mike never said he plans on recording more FM music. Plus, Chester is still good friends with Ryan and Amir and the rest of the guys. Mike is not even on talking terms with Tak, and neither is Ryu. SOB is no longer relevant at all. Ryu has done his fair share of talking shit about Mike and LP as well, even though he claims to be friends with Mike. Sure, Mike COULD do another FM album, but most definitely without Tak and it would not be the same. Also, OOA came out in 2009, FM came out in 2005. I don't think we will see a DBS or FM album again, but DBS is at least possible.

true man, friendships and chronology are different to both "groups". and hell, maybe chester will do some more stuff with the JK guys, while Mike seems pretty well established in film/tv soundtracks now.
but I can't see alot of DBS stuff getting the amount of *ahem* exposure that it previously had.
i say "*ahem*" becuase OOA was so awfully promoted...
I'd welcome new solo material form either. but in terms of DBS, i can only see that kind of thing going to a few CA shows and to germany where JK are more well known. shame but...

anyway, this thread for this discussion. LP GO!

does anyone remember the exact quote that mike said, word for word? or have a recording? i have a feeling this has been taken out of context.



source? i find this hard to believe since ryu was featured on the raid soundtrack, and was at the LPU screening event with mike and chester. he even attended the afterparty with mike after the screening. where's your proof?

o.0 can you tell me what ryu said about mike and LP ?

can't personally tell you any quotes, but there's been some real bad blood between these two

This completely destroyed my hype... I was really hoping for a MTM-driven sound...
More rap and dubstep remixes...

Same here, but as long as Chester screams and sings more than it's fine by me.

Ryu said some stuff a few years back, a lot of stuff, in like 2008/2009, he even did a song called ''I Did It To Myself'' and it disses LP in the verse. Maybe they don't have beef anymore, but still.

Agreed, I had gotten an M2M with electronic bass lines sound vibe from the earlier descriptions, but I'm really glad they didn't take that suggestion to have others produce their songs. Continues to show how original the band can be

Dear Dave Grohl, you're argument is invalid.

Dave Grohl sucks compared to Chester.

It really kind of upsets me that Dave said that about LP. I have always been a huge fan of him and never realized he ever said that. But i also have to assume that when Mike called bullshit, he was referring to when Dave said it. If he said it back in 2005, I would have to assume he meant for that time. Dave obviously cant see into the future. also, I was the one who kept calling out minnesota when everyone was saying russia and other countries. mike made a comment about it lol!

LPSpain has the video of the videochat!

It'd be a shame if this topic devolved into Dave Grohl bashing when the man is a legitimately fantastic musician. Have you listened to 90s Foo Fighters? Works of art. Sure he runs his mouth occasionally when a band doesn't do straight up alternative rock, but that's how the guy is, and it's not like he's a hypocrite, either. That video of Rope is an out of context example.

In any case, I am really looking forward to this album. Rap all over the place? LP goes country? This I have to hear.

don't think that's a diss, he was just talking about how LP couldn't help his situation, being on tour and all.


nope. truth. dave couldn't hit half the notes chester hits, or have half the power behind his voice. chester destroys him.

not to mention, dave is a terrible live vocalist. horrible tone and pitch is off many times, when chester has become one of the best over the years. sure, dave's got vocal power, but he can't touch chester's. take it from me. i was at the weenie roast last year and saw them both perform within the same ten minutes. chester's power blew me the fuck away up until the end of linkin park's 90 minute set, and i was cringing at dave's horrible tone for most of the foo fighters' set.

let's hear dave try to sing "new divide," "given up," or "the messenger." can't imagine that? that's 'cause it's not possible.

I don't think we should be comparing two completely different vocalists, really. Sure, Dave's voice is pretty rough and limited, but he can sing decently most of the time. They're from two completely different bands.

Not to mention that Dave is definitely the better all-around musician.

Exactly. These two sing completly different styles of rock music. I understand where dave comes from when he says stuff like that, but again that is just where he comes from and who he is. to say he is a horrible vocalist is stupid. the man can sing with the best and is an amazing song writer. any foo fighters album will show you that. that doesnt give him the right to rip a band like LP though who has done their own fair share of amazing things. sad that he cant recognize that.

This. He doesn't want to disappoint anyone by full-out admitting it's over so he keeps putting it in a different way or different wording.

okay. to clear this up. i just saw the video of the chat. what dave thought was that linkin park plays to vocal backing tracks. which means either 1. essentially, lip-synching or 2. having the track play back through their in-ear monitors, and singing along with it.

linkin park occasionally sings OVER backing tracks, but never lip-synchs. and this is very rare. there's small parts of a few songs they even do this to. neither do they have the album track playing back through their in-ear monitors. there's a rip of mike's in-ear monitor from a show in 2004. no album track playing.

Damn

I really think this Album could be there best next to ATS, Overall this album could have a lil bit of everything or everyone is happy, 15traks plus 8remixes & im sure there is going to be more so come the end of the year we will see about "30" Tracks alone from the Living Things Era.

IM STILL WAITING FOR MY DVD/CD COMBO FROM THE ATS ERA -.- I gave up so i took the full shows of "Live In Madird & Itunes & MSG" and im making an HD DVD/CD disc & thats my combo.

BTW Im sure were going to get new DBS/FM come 2014 one way or another!

I think this topic got a lot more out of hand than it need to be. First off, I honestly cannot say I know for a fact that LP uses backing vocal or instrumental tracks. I just know LP fans have their noses so far up their asses that I'm sure they tend to find out the truth haha. Second, I honestly could care less about what Dave has to say about other bands. He comes from a different era in music and a completely different style of writing music and performing. Thirdly, people need to stop comparing Chester and Dave's vocal styles and capabilities. Two very distinct and unique vocal approaches, and to compare the two is just stupid. Yes, Chester is a very powerful vocalist and has a wide vocal range on and off the stage, while Dave does not sound nearly as close to his studio recorded vocals. Does not come close to meaning that he is a shitty vocalist. He just has a different vocal range and style. He truly believes in the idea of going on stage, beating the shit out of their instruments, and putting on a good show as arguably the best frontman in the game, cause he arguably is. Finally, Dave also plays for an hour and fifteen minutes longer than LP live, at least, so people should hold their tongue and let Chester sing for that long and see what type of toll that takes on his vocal cords. People just need to accept the fact that not every musician shares the same opinion and sees eye-to-eye with everyone, and that both bands are one of the best to come out of alternative music so just let it go and enjoy them both. Or don't

Shit, if there was a like feature for posts on LPL...

Good post, very thoughtful.

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btw NY Rangers > Flyers xD

Ha! Typical New York fan. You should know better than anyone that nothing's guaranteed in the playoffs. Focus on getting out the 2nd round with Washington first before you talk shit

So you're just spreading unsubstantiated rumors?

Ah wow. I don't like how Dave said that statement. Just because he is in the Foo Fighters, doesn't give him the right to have a big head and say what defines rock music. Music is music and if Linkin Park use samples their music, who cares? Someones got to trigger them. Someones got to have the musical timing and talent to trigger them. It's still music, it's still an art. Dave needs to take a step out of his arse and realise that rock music isn't just drums, guitar, bass & vocals.

pretty much

Sounds interesting... is there any source available to check this out??

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Amazing, thank you!!

Nice! Thanks.. Just finished watching. Awesome chat! Mikes are hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zne4o7JNulU

After watching this, I'm 100% sure the beginning of Fallout has the studio vocals playing over it. Mike is indeed singing but his live vocals don't come in (aka aren't turned up) until halfway through. The beginning is for sure a prerecording played over the PA. Almost a lipsynch since his mic is turned down. No way the beginning of Fallout is live vocals though.

it surprises me that no one asked about the DSP for this tour so far

His singing is live throughout the whole song, the unprocessed sound just gets gradually brought up in the mix as the song progresses (at the beginning it's all vocoder, by the end it's about 50/50, kind of the reverse of what they did with MLK's speech on Wisdom, Justice, & Love). The same thing actually happens on the album version.

Seems like were doing just fine? How about them Devils? Who lets out 3-4goals in one period etc? Haha Good Luck cause your team should be doing the same!

NOW ON TOPIC: We just got a hell of alot of info from this Live Chat, LP has a better chance of playing Living Things Live in FULL then ATS (even though they should of done that the day of the release show) or for the ATH show in japan. Anyways im still hype that come the end of the year we should have about 20-30 tracks from the LT Era (Album,Remixs,Live Tracks,EPs,etc)

It really sounds to me like he's lipsynching at the beginning versus singing live. I know it's a vocoder effect (or supposed to look like it) but the effects on it match up too perfectly to the album version IMO. Thoughts?

I agree that there's some type of vocal playback going on there, but if the only live part was just his regular vocal in the second half of the song, there'd be no reason for him to be using the vocoder mic as opposed to his regular one. He definitely sings Fallout using the same microphone he uses on the live version of The Radiance.

I think this is not a monitor mix, just a microphone feed, because that's all you hear.