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Rob_Wilson
Thrash hits recently put this post up on twitter:

Do people care about gossip about the new albums from Linkin Park or Green Day? We've been eavesdropping again.

I'm assuming that given a couple of hours there will be some form of article up on their website here by the end of the day.

Here's hoping!

EDIT: Since posting that on twitter (it was also linked to their facebook) some comments have been posted on their status and they gave some interesting replies:

If what we heard is to be believed, Linkin Park have finished recording now, and have actually moved away from the electronic stuff on this new one.

Personally, I don't believe this to be true due to what Rob said in the chat on Monday, however maybe they have finalised the songs they plan to perfect for the album?

Also after a bit more discussion they then posted this:

While the record business in 2012 is a very different beast now to what it was back in 2000, we're sure the difference in sales figures/musical style between LP's earlier/later material might've played "some" part in their decision-making process.

This part sounds like they're echoing what was said in Kerrang last week/week before so could be interesting - as to how much credibility is behind their source I don't know but I suppose it adds to the speculation wink.gif

What does everyone think?
MacGyver
I just want to know how much is 'very soon' for them, weeks, months, etc. biggrin.gif
Ducko
Thrash Hits are normally quite well informed. Difficult to to believe they've already finished recording, though- if it's true I'm sure we'll be hearing it from some other sources soon.
MacGyver
Remember that a rumor come true when more than one source report it. Like Rock Am Ring + new album comes this year rumor
Stone44
I think Brad and Dave just wanted to steal the spotlight back from Joe tongue.gif
Xero21
As far as the band is concerned, I don't think album sales had anything to do with any change in sound that might have happened. All artists now-a-days know that low sales are a sign of the times (piracy), and that simply changing your sound isn't going to magically get people to buy your music. People just don't buy music like they used to.

However, as far as the geniuses at Warner are concerned...I don't know how they might feel.
adaminator1
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As far as the band is concerned, I don't think album sales had anything to do with any change in sound that might have happened. All artists now-a-days know that low sales are a sign of the times (piracy), and that simply changing your sound isn't going to magically get people to buy your music. People just don't buy music like they used to.

However, as far as the geniuses at Warner are concerned...I don't know how they might feel.


I really don't think they changed their sound because of sales figures. I think they changed their sound because they wanted to. That's what I love about Linkin Park. They keep changing their music and experimenting. I can't wait for more info, too!
MONDREUS240
I don't know whether to be skeptical or excited...only time will tell.
LINKINMARK
So they're saying they're leaning towards the old sound again or what? As long as it isn't Dubstep.
Stone44
QUOTE (LinkinMark @ Feb 2 2012, 08:25 PM) *
So they're saying they're leaning towards the old sound again or what? As long as it isn't Dubstep.


There's no way they're gonna go back to the old stuff until they do a back to the roots type thing, and it's still too early for that. I personally see them doing more rock-ish stuff, maybe in the M2M spirit but with everything they've learned in their career, maybe like a heavier combo of M2M / ATS? I could see them doing a heavier more electronica influenced Foo Fighters type of record.
MrXEROLP
ahhh man,it's all crap lol,I don't think they've finished working on new record,last monday they were working on vocals lol,you can't expect next record before august according to me.....well,I don't want them to sound like "HYBRID THEORY","METEORA" & the rest of two,I want to sound them like "LINKIN PARK",that's it.I'm their fan,whatever they are going to make will be awesome,what else we can do except listening lol.they are awesome musicians ,& I pray for their success.....
ummmmm if someone is talking about "they're leaning towards the old sound again",I don't think so it's true,it was chester I think who said last year in a lpu chat that brad is not going to play much guitar in next record,so I don't think they will sound like old one,neither I force them to do so,being a fan,just listen to their music,stop expectations ,they will surely make f'ing awesome music....
KATHYxx

in b4 "Is Thrash where we get our news now?"
Ducko
Hopefully all the nu-metal obsessives will get false hope over all this talk of "old-school LP", and then be crushingly disappointed when the album isn't just an early 2000s nostalgia trip.
andydlp
I love rumours and gossip leading up to an LP album.
Most of it turns out to be miles away from the actual truth!
LINKINMARK
I don't want them to go back to the old style. MTM and ATS are my two favourite albums. I don't really like to set expectations as to what I think it might be. I'm sure it will sound great.
sublimeric
I'd hate to see Linkin Park go old school just because sales aren't what they used to be. I would rather they put out an album they like and are proud of instead of songs like "Runaway" or "Hit the Floor" that they'll play once and never again.

I'll always have a soft spot for the "old LP", but I don't ever see Chester going back to his old vocal style. What reason does he have to scream? I'd like more rapping from Mike (ever heard that before lol) but I think I'll like the new LP record no matter what. They're "my band" and I'll always find something to like about their music, especially with Chaz & MS behind the mics.
Dexter
I think it's already been clearly stablished that they don't give a fuck about album sales, that they're putting out whatever they want to.
HybridThe0ry97
To me, it makes no sense for them to return to their heavier roots. The music industry is a very different beast right now, and rock isn't really selling.
Serenity of Ashes
QUOTE (sohail abbasi @ Feb 3 2012, 01:04 PM) *
ahhh man,it's all crap lol,I don't think they've finished working on new record,last monday they were working on vocals lol,you can't expect next record before august according to me.....well,I don't want them to sound like "HYBRID THEORY","METEORA" & the rest of two,I want to sound them like "LINKIN PARK",that's it.I'm their fan,whatever they are going to make will be awesome,what else we can do except listening lol.they are awesome musicians ,& I pray for their success.....
ummmmm if someone is talking about "they're leaning towards the old sound again",I don't think so it's true,it was chester I think who said last year in a lpu chat that brad is not going to play much guitar in next record,so I don't think they will sound like old one,neither I force them to do so,being a fan,just listen to their music,stop expectations ,they will surely make f'ing awesome music....

I have to say I strongly agree with you and many others in this thread. I try not to have any expectations of LP's music, I just sit back, wait a few years, and when their new album comes out I'm sure it'll blow my brains out with its epic-ness. I expect nothing less from this band now. Labels don't suit them.
junior8821
Cant wait for the new album
LGraham
QUOTE (sublimeric @ Feb 3 2012, 08:50 PM) *
I'll always have a soft spot for the "old LP", but I don't ever see Chester going back to his old vocal style. What reason does he have to scream? I'd like more rapping from Mike (ever heard that before lol) but I think I'll like the new LP record no matter what. They're "my band" and I'll always find something to like about their music, especially with Chaz & MS behind the mics.


if only more people thought the same way...
Rob_Wilson
QUOTE (HybridThe0ry97 @ Feb 3 2012, 09:03 PM) *
To me, it makes no sense for them to return to their heavier roots. The music industry is a very different beast right now, and rock isn't really selling.


This would completely counteract the albums selling statement and would mean they are making music to sell albums rather than because they want to if you look at it like that. Pretty much would define sell out :/
Looking at it that way is an awful outlook to me personally, don't get me wrong I think ATS is brilliant but I did fall in love with them as a rock band - it would be nice to see them at least incorporate a bit more of a rock sound. I would prefer them not to get too psychadelic and far out 'cause it's not really my thing but by the sounds of things they seem to have acknowledged they don't need to cast away anything they may have previously done which is great! Roll on June/July/August!
Legend
Hoping for a Reanimation type sound. Reanimation is still relevant!
LIИKIИ JŽЁ
The album is going to be out earlier than expected

im with this information, Rob in the chat said that Chaz and Mike were recording vocals and im pretty sure that's the last thing they always do at every record
MacGyver
QUOTE (Linkin/Joze @ Feb 4 2012, 01:29 AM) *
The album is going to be out earlier than expected

im with this information, Rob in the chat said that Chaz and Mike were recording vocals and im pretty sure that's the last thing they always do at every record


Agree with you, now wait for more news and maybe the new single
Strandty
QUOTE (Linkin/Joze @ Feb 4 2012, 07:29 AM) *
The album is going to be out earlier than expected

im with this information, Rob in the chat said that Chaz and Mike were recording vocals and im pretty sure that's the last thing they always do at every record


I agree with you on this, vocals are the last thing and also, in the previous albums the album name is usually done at the very end and with the talk of album titles being on the chat with rob (even if Mike did have some joke ones), this album could be out before long!
crusader25
1st i also agree that vocals are usually th last thing recorded before mixing and record completion. Now ii dig theres gossip on linkin park lately as newsfront has been quiet. Anyone expecting another hybrid theory (aka metal album) for the forseeable future will need to give it up. As for record sales, they dont mean squat when most music fans choose to download illegally on the net rather than pay for the albums/singles coz of hard times ecomonically and even then theyd still rather use their money for wat ever use so now its not defined on if linkin park sells 12 million records again on one album coz it wont happen. Rather its defined on how the live shows are and if the fans like their albums or not coz remember listening to music is not only about something to listen to in situation or to dance to but its to tell a story as well. Anyway with more and more rumours and with some europe shows announced in the american summer it could be that the album could be out by then (mid-year). But be cautious that until you hear any official word from lp.com or from the band members themselves take these gossip with a grain of salt. But otherwise im excited
Bliss
QUOTE (crusader25 @ Feb 4 2012, 03:15 AM) *
1st i also agree that vocals are usually th last thing recorded before mixing and record completion. Now ii dig theres gossip on linkin park lately as newsfront has been quiet. Anyone expecting another hybrid theory (aka metal album) for the forseeable future will need to give it up. As for record sales, they dont mean squat when most music fans choose to download illegally on the net rather than pay for the albums/singles coz of hard times ecomonically and even then theyd still rather use their money for wat ever use so now its not defined on if linkin park sells 12 million records again on one album coz it wont happen. Rather its defined on how the live shows are and if the fans like their albums or not coz remember listening to music is not only about something to listen to in situation or to dance to but its to tell a story as well. Anyway with more and more rumours and with some europe shows announced in the american summer it could be that the album could be out by then (mid-year). But be cautious that until you hear any official word from lp.com or from the band members themselves take these gossip with a grain of salt. But otherwise im excited

I agree with you, artists and bands hardly make money off albums any more. Most of their money comes from concert sales now a days


and i also agree on the vocals, this could come out sooner than expected and we could have a single really soon
ArturoLPrOcKs
I dont care about how the album will sound because it will be awesome. The only thing I want from them is playing all of teir songs, where is Runaway, SIB, APFMH,POA, Dont Stay or Figure.09?
Come on guys dont say that you dont miss this songs live because itīs impossible. They could be like Muse because they play a set with all of Origin of Simetry because it turned 10 years old.
What did we see when Hybrid Theory turn ten years old? Only APFMH. Come on do something special in your live shows
raulgabi
QUOTE (ArturoLPrOcKs @ Feb 5 2012, 03:27 PM) *
I dont care about how the album will sound because it will be awesome. The only thing I want from them is playing all of teir songs, where is Runaway, SIB, APFMH,POA, Dont Stay or Figure.09?
Come on guys dont say that you dont miss this songs live because itīs impossible. They could be like Muse because they play a set with all of Origin of Simetry because it turned 10 years old.
What did we see when Hybrid Theory turn ten years old? Only APFMH. Come on do something special in your live shows

Well maybe they bring back APFMH, POA or SIB. But not Runaway. Chester hates that song.
I hope the band will play No Roads Left, Robot Boy or Across The Line someday....
Krylon
Chances are this album won't be too heavy on the rock side. A lot of mainstream 90's/00's bands have been attempting to bring rock back. Incubus, RHCP, Blink 182, they all came out with albums recently but none of them seemed to break back into the mainstream, even after moving their sound less towards the rock side. Clearly rock doesn't have a very good place in this generation, and LP would be falling into the same hole as these bands are if they went for it. But on the flip-side, maybe LP is up for the challenge?
Maxthunderer
I wouldn't guess until I hear 1st single smile.gif Also can't wait to see new tour dates, anxiously waiting for it!
FaiNt
QUOTE (Krylon @ Feb 5 2012, 11:52 AM) *
Chances are this album won't be too heavy on the rock side. A lot of mainstream 90's/00's bands have been attempting to bring rock back. Incubus, RHCP, Blink 182, they all came out with albums recently but none of them seemed to break back into the mainstream, even after moving their sound less towards the rock side. Clearly rock doesn't have a very good place in this generation, and LP would be falling into the same hole as these bands are if they went for it. But on the flip-side, maybe LP is up for the challenge?

those albums weren't that good thats why
Bliss
QUOTE (FaiNt @ Feb 5 2012, 05:00 PM) *
those albums weren't that good thats why

blink-182 album was amazing
linkinsteve
I agree with people on here. I do love LPs old sound but I don't want them to bring it back. I feel they are done with it. But really, if they went heavier, or more on the rock side, I don't see that as going back to their old sound. Songs like When They Come For Me, Given Up, No More Sorrow, Wretches and Kings I cannot see would fit on HT or Meteora. Think people would disagree but I saw it as a progression and being creative.
Anyway yeah maybe take this with a grain of salt as it may be far from the truth.
SixOldShoes
QUOTE
To me, it makes no sense for them to return to their heavier roots. The music industry is a very different beast right now, and rock isn't really selling.


Linkin Park was never a Band who sold on singles very well, they are earn money with selling records. Bands like Metallica or Rammstein does it on that way too.

But Linkin Park a different and maybe special because they have their own genre. Look at a song like New Divide it is a kind of rock and sold very well. When I look on LP's previous singles then I see on the MTM period the have sold more singles as on Meteora or Hybrid Theory.

The ATS Singles sold very bad, because maybe of the fact it was not like what we expect from LP, but for more it was to much change for a mainstream sound.

So, for LP it doesn't care how is selling, the important thing is that it sells out. In the LP way it means, it is better to return to their heavier roots. I think.

LINKINMARK
Linkin Park's first week sales on ATS were better than Nickelback, Foo Fighters, Blink 182 but it still wasn't a lot compared to previous albums. Rock isn't selling as well as before but let's hope the next album changes that!
adaminator1
QUOTE (Exzero @ Feb 7 2012, 01:23 PM) *
sells out


Inb4 people take these two words out of context.
Geki
Would be awesome if they went the opposite of electronic on this album, but I think the album will sound more electronic and more like ATS than anything else which sucks. Sad, but true. ATS Part 2.
MacGyver
Too many speculations on this new album that no one has heard anything, no one has seen progress, no one has heard as it sounds, the band has not said much about, all of this rumors has given us a very weak idea about the new album, but that's not enough for me.
Usman
LP sucks and sold out, that is unless they stop caring about what music they want to make and start making albums that sell more (which is NOT selling out). End of story.
haimu
They sold out but wait to listen the album, maybe we will have a good surprise.
adaminator1
QUOTE (haimu @ Feb 8 2012, 08:44 AM) *
They sold out but wait to listen the album, maybe we will have a good surprise.


No, they didn't sell out. Anyone who suggests such a thing is... Well, to put it frankly, an idiot. They're making the music they want to make. That's the opposite of selling out.

____


So, did they ever post an article? >.>
Bliss
QUOTE (LinkinMark @ Feb 6 2012, 05:01 PM) *
Linkin Park's first week sales on ATS were better than Nickelback, Foo Fighters, Blink 182 but it still wasn't a lot compared to previous albums. Rock isn't selling as well as before but let's hope the next album changes that!

yeah but Blink-182's album and Foo Fighters album were better

QUOTE (adaminator1 @ Feb 7 2012, 03:05 PM) *
No, they didn't sell out. Anyone who suggests such a thing is... Well, to put it frankly, an idiot. They're making the music they want to make. That's the opposite of selling out.

____


So, did they ever post an article? >.>

this argument always comes up. I'd say technically they aren't selling out because the album sales were weak compared to last three albums but it still was a "bad change" imo

so not selling out, but still

I liked MTM much better than ATS
adaminator1
QUOTE (Bliss @ Feb 8 2012, 01:50 PM) *
yeah but Blink-182's album and Foo Fighters album were better


this argument always comes up. I'd say technically they aren't selling out because the album sales were weak compared to last three albums but it still was a "bad change" imo

so not selling out, but still

I liked MTM much better than ATS


However-- that is indeed your opinion. I, and a lot of other fans, don't think it's a "bad change". Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bad thing.

Just because a band puts out something that you don't like doesn't inherently make it bad. It's good music. Just not your kind of thing. It's still Linkin Park.

I, for one, love everything LP has come out with. HT/Reanimation/Meteora/MTM/ATS. I want them to keep on doing the music they want, and not listen to what people want them to sound like. It's just more exciting that way-- you never know what they're going to do next.

Love it, or hate it, you can't deny that Linkin Park is a unique band in how they change from album to album-- even with keeping the same kind of sound between Hybrid Theory and Meteora, they pulled off plenty of new, exciting things that kept everything fresh. They know how to make good music, regardless of genre-- but the genre hopping I think is what people complain about, because not many other bands ((That I know of)) change constantly each album, constantly reinventing their sound.

I think you're in it for more "Rock" than anything else, which is why you hated ATS-- because it wasn't in your genre preferences. It came completely out of left field. I, for one, just like to sit back and enjoy the ride. I was originally in it for the rock too-- but Linkin Park have brought so much more to the table than that in the past few years, it really is quite amazing. I want them to keep on doing what they want to do, without constricting themselves to a single mindset. However-- As such, I don't mind if they work in some of their old sound into anything, because I know that Linkin Park will keep things fresh. The most exciting thing is that you just don't know what to expect with new songs. I love that feeling.
murphyLP
QUOTE (adaminator1 @ Feb 8 2012, 02:30 AM) *
However-- that is indeed your opinion. I, and a lot of other fans, don't think it's a "bad change". Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it a bad thing.

Just because a band puts out something that you don't like doesn't inherently make it bad. It's good music. Just not your kind of thing. It's still Linkin Park.

I, for one, love everything LP has come out with. HT/Reanimation/Meteora/MTM/ATS. I want them to keep on doing the music they want, and not listen to what people want them to sound like. It's just more exciting that way-- you never know what they're going to do next.

Love it, or hate it, you can't deny that Linkin Park is a unique band in how they change from album to album-- even with keeping the same kind of sound between Hybrid Theory and Meteora, they pulled off plenty of new, exciting things that kept everything fresh. They know how to make good music, regardless of genre-- but the genre hopping I think is what people complain about, because not many other bands ((That I know of)) change constantly each album, constantly reinventing their sound.

I think you're in it for more "Rock" than anything else, which is why you hated ATS-- because it wasn't in your genre preferences. It came completely out of left field. I, for one, just like to sit back and enjoy the ride. I was originally in it for the rock too-- but Linkin Park have brought so much more to the table than that in the past few years, it really is quite amazing. I want them to keep on doing what they want to do, without constricting themselves to a single mindset. However-- As such, I don't mind if they work in some of their old sound into anything, because I know that Linkin Park will keep things fresh. The most exciting thing is that you just don't know what to expect with new songs. I love that feeling.


Agreed!!!
SixOldShoes
It is everytime funny to see, how people are defending ATS. They say the change is good, and it is a good Album but the most people like the prevoius records more, that's a little bit controversial.

Change is good, but to much is to much. It is not only the change on their records they have changed on theirs shows a lot too.

So my question is, is that what they really want for the fans ?

I like ATS, but sometimes I think I like it only because of a still hope that they return to a harder sound. I don't want nu metal back, I want that they use guitar or harder drums. Is this really to difficult ? Is that really to difficult to be creative and making good rock music ?

I think not.
LINKINMARK
I facepalm far too much on this thread so I think I'm just gonna leave it and never come back
Rob_Wilson
An article never was posted - Derek from LPA apparently found the source from which Thrash Hits had obtained their news and blew them to shit lol. By the sounds of it some radio station claimed they had a story when they hadn't or at least that's what I picked up from what Derek said, though I'll be honest Thrash Hits have always been a reliable source and tend to have reliable sources but I guess everyone can make mistakes :/ oh well Mike's confirmed the album should be out mid-year so we'll get something within the next month or two anyway smile.gif
Purgatorium
Linkin Park should still experiment with different genres. Not electronic, but like a different style of rock/metal.
They could even go melodeath for the new album. Imagine people's reactions!
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