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AndOne
post Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM
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Some of the fans in Germany and other European countries have voiced their concerns to us regarding LP playing the exact same set three nights in a row. We all unanimously agree that something should be done about this considering ticket prices are higher than they've ever been, but also because of the fact that more and more fans are seeing multiple shows on the same tour. This is arguably one of LP's biggest European tours ever and for them to not rotate their sets, in the minds of some people, is unacceptable.

So we ask that if you agree with this, maybe because it's the 10th anniversary of Hybrid Theory and you'd like to hear more songs from it, or because you just think LP should play more than the singles and new stuff live, or if you just want to hear something different...then we ask that you could either post a comment on Mike's blog, ask the band about it at a M&G, or even tag it on Twitter with the hashtag "LProtatesetlists" or something.

What do you guys think about this? People that have seen the shows or people that are following the tour intensely, or even people that have seen the band many times in one tour - what do you think about this? Should they just rotate next year (with arguably a smaller European tour) or should they try and start now? Is there no excuse for not rotating now and playing different songs live, or is there an excuse?

What do you think LPLive?


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2008: Frankfurt 1/20, Köln 1/21, Berlin 6/27,
2009: Graz 7/23, Zürich 7/28, Stuttgart 7/30, Gräfenhainichen 8/2
2010: Berlin 10/20, Stuttgart 10/22, Köln 10/27, Frankfurt 11/2
2011: Oberursel 6/19, Hamburg 6/21 (+ LPU Summit), München 6/25
2012: Rock im Park 6/3, Bristow 8/10 (Rehearsal), Bristow 8/11, Uncasville 8/12, Mansfield 8/14, Wantagh 8/15, Camden 8/17 (+ LPU Summit)
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BlacK0uT
post Oct 24 2010, 09:11 PM
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Oh jeez... I'm pulling out the Advil now...

Some of you need counseling/medication, but I digress.

Just because you haven't been to a Linkin Park show, doesn't mean other fans can't hope for rotating setlists. I've only been to one show... in 2004, when their setlists were cool, and I still want rotating sets. Makes it more interesting. I can totally understand if they wait until 2011, why not get used to the new songs and transitions. No offense, but trading a few songs in and out of the set, isn't that hard. People are acting like its going to take hours of planning to trade a few songs around in the set. Unless they are completely inept at playing live, this is not true.

QUOTE (arbiter @ Oct 24 2010, 09:05 PM) *
Another thing that grates on my nerves is the whole "do something for the hardcore fans and play more Hybrid Theory" or the typical whine "play some more old stuff" speil. WTF? Besides the fact that this is all just the whole wanting-what-you-don't-have syndrome at play, since when did Crawling, Papercut, One Step Closer & In the End become new stuff? And since when did hardcore fans become the term to describe the fans who only want LP to play non-single stuff from Hybrid Theory & Meteora which is what the bitching is really about.


Anybody who collects and trades live audio... The very foundation of what this website was built on, will tell you that we all got sick of hearing those four singles from HT 3 or so years ago. Where is With You, Runaway, By Myself, and A Place For My Head? The reason they say this is because they've played 3 out of the 4 songs you've mentioned at nearly every show since 2001.

I, and others have admitted we want less singles in the set. We are entitled to want what we don't have until we get it... And most of us realize we all won't get what we want too.

QUOTE (arbiter @ Oct 24 2010, 09:05 PM) *
And at the end of the day, every fans ideal set list is so diverse due to everyone's personal taste and preference, it is pointless to even debate what sort of set list would be an improvement because they are biased. For example, my ideal set list involves the band playing all of A Thousand Suns with nothing from Meteora except Breaking the Habit & Easier to Run, and everything from MTM with the exception of In Between, Given Up, Shadow of the Day, & Leave Out All The Rest and from HT, Only Crawling, Papercut, Pushing me Away and A Place For My Head. My set list is biased because i prefer Chester's singing voice over his screaming voice so the songs i want reflects that. And i consider Meteora to be their worst album so it reflects on my setlist. I also think ATS is their best so my set list reflects that too. And so on and so on so ideal set list? Nonexistent.


LOL, thats the whole point of rotating setlists. So they hit as much of the fanbase as possible with what they want. I beleive there used to be a thread for completely unrealistic custom setlists, like the one you described. We are not asking for impossible songs to be played, we are asking for rotating setlists, which they have done before.

QUOTE (arbiter @ Oct 24 2010, 09:05 PM) *
If LP decided to play another European tour next year, then i say the need for a rotating set -list with an altered set list is warranted to some degree. But, people will still bitch about it anyways which is all cool and predictable at this point.


People will always bitch... Yes.

QUOTE (deadnbloated @ Oct 24 2010, 09:31 PM) *
when linkin park is onstage 5 feet in front of me, i couldnt give a shit less if they rotate thier setlists. all this talk about giving the band notes or harassing them online is kind of weird


So giving the band a note at a fan M&G, or asking them to rotate sets on their websites is harrassment? Dear God...

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Fan #1 - "Yes, they finally played With You again on tour and it was just as awesome as I remember it"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, I suppose, but I would've preferred if they played APFMH!"

Fan #1 - "But dude, they also finally played No Roads Left and it was totally badass!"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, but Across The Line would've be soooo much better to play than NRL"

Fan #1 - "Wow man, you're tough to please aren't you?"

Fan #2 - "Hey man, I paid my hard earned money for this ticket in the hope they'd play some of the older/rarer tracks instead of the same stuff they always play!"

Fan #1 - "You know what, you're right! Stay right there while I ask the other 20,000 people at this show if they agree with you!!!"

Morale of the story...there's no pleasing everyone and by everyone I mean the MILLIONS of LP fans around the world!

You want rotating setlists or classic songs like With You or A Place for my head??? Then watch the Live in Texas dvd or go on YouTube!

Rant over!


Oh cool. Your rant is spam. What does it have to do with rotating setlists?

QUOTE (rav0k @ Oct 24 2010, 07:02 PM) *
I've already stated my opinion in another thread.

I think it's very rude and disrespectful for people to be demanding a different setlist. Yeah, it would be pretty awesome for them to rotate it and add some new shit..but the bottom line is it's not their fault that you are attending multiple shows for a tour.

Their setlist IS new and different. If their setlist was the same for 10 years on different tours, then I would understand. If you don't like the setlist, stop going to the multiple shows.

If you enjoy going to the multiple shows, then appreciate what you have. That's simple math, really.


I thought they'd appreciate how some fans have been touched by there music enough to come to multiple shows. Who the hell are you to tell people what they can and can't want? Oh man... that head ache's kicking in now.

QUOTE (unknown1019 @ Oct 24 2010, 05:16 PM) *
there are fans that haven't heard "numb" live even once because of geographic and various other reasons and you guys are complaining about them playing the same ~25 songs in your area... there are more important things to consider. Plus a casual fan would rather hear "in the end" then "with you". it's about making the most people happy, and singles do the job. it's the fact of the business.


Like I've said... I've only been to one show and I still want rotating setlists. I'm sorry if you haven't been to a show yet, but that doesn't mean we all can't want something for the people who are going. (Or for those who collect the DSPs and live audio, like myself)

QUOTE (maik_gianino @ Oct 24 2010, 03:30 PM) *
My opinion is: let wealthy children cry !!!

This is the classic whim of a wealthy child, mooom !!! i want that LP made a Rotate Setlist pleasee, moooom !!!

Enjoy the Shows and Shut Up !!! Linkin Park is not the classic band that change the setlist in every show!!! Did you not learned ? This band have 10 years, 10 years making similar Setlists, stop cry kids...

This is so stupid...


Oh look, the classic cry of a kid who has never been to a Linkin Park show, and therefore can't even say if the same set would get boring or not many nights in a row.


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Ok, I don't want to quote anyone else. But just because we want them to rotate sets doesn't make us ungrateful. And just because you don't want it, doesn't mean others everywhere don't.


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post Oct 25 2010, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) *
Oh look, the classic cry of a kid who has never been to a Linkin Park show, and therefore can't even say if the same set would get boring or not many nights in a row.

/flame


fixed it

Unless you go multiple times within, oh say a week or 2, not rotating the setlists shouldn't present a problem. Now, if they kept the same over the years and only put in 4 more songs with each album, then complain. Yes, I'd love to see a rotating setlist, but it's no grounds for going and attacking other LPL fans.


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- AndOne   Live Setlists   Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM
- - tschenneck   I will do everything I can to get Mikes attention ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:24 AM
- - ana   Im gonna talk to mike about this on wednesday, or ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:29 AM
- - DecanoLP   I think they will ignore hashtags or comments on T...   Oct 24 2010, 10:29 AM
- - Qwerty18   Some comments on Mike's blog will not change a...   Oct 24 2010, 10:32 AM
- - majorfort   The dream thing that they should do is play HT in ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:33 AM
- - CitizenErased   I definitely think it sucks for the people who see...   Oct 24 2010, 10:34 AM
- - sian18   i love ATS and cant wait to here songs off it live...   Oct 24 2010, 10:34 AM
- - AndOne   Nobody expects them to take out any of the the ATS...   Oct 24 2010, 10:36 AM
- - michaLPLP   I agree. they have enough songs to switch the setl...   Oct 24 2010, 10:44 AM
- - SpikeMinoda   QUOTE (AndOne @ Oct 24 2010, 05:36 PM) No...   Oct 24 2010, 10:56 AM
- - TnkA   look i think it being the 10th Bday of HT, we just...   Oct 24 2010, 10:56 AM
- - sckofelng   I am completely with you. But i think the only opp...   Oct 24 2010, 10:57 AM
- - Xero21   Maybe I'd just feel grateful to be seeing them...   Oct 24 2010, 10:59 AM
|- - cristianoz   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:59 AM) Ma...   Oct 24 2010, 11:08 AM
|- - AndOne   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 05:59 PM) Af...   Oct 24 2010, 11:16 AM
- - bLePn   This is honestly a news post? Yeah, it does suck f...   Oct 24 2010, 11:04 AM
- - feelthless   A big "rotation" isn't needed. I thi...   Oct 24 2010, 11:07 AM
- - wiiesel   LP fans always find something to bitch about ^^ Of...   Oct 24 2010, 11:12 AM
- - Smarky   QUOTE (AndOne @ Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM) So...   Oct 24 2010, 11:13 AM
|- - DecanoLP   QUOTE (Smarky @ Oct 24 2010, 11:13 AM) Ar...   Oct 24 2010, 11:17 AM
- - Xero21   And no offense, but we're really doing this on...   Oct 24 2010, 11:16 AM
- - sublimeric   It's all about reaching as many people as poss...   Oct 24 2010, 11:38 AM
- - CitizenErased   When LP suppose to do those poll songs? That would...   Oct 24 2010, 11:41 AM
- - venom12   YEs dont take out ats song just change old stuffs ...   Oct 24 2010, 11:42 AM
- - Hahninator   Well yeah I would say this is a HUGE tour for Euro...   Oct 24 2010, 11:44 AM
- - Mofamike   I wish they play something like that: Step up/Nob...   Oct 24 2010, 11:56 AM
- - Pez   PERSONALLY I would like setlists like they had bac...   Oct 24 2010, 12:21 PM
- - MacShepard   In my opinion, is unacceptable to not rotate sets....   Oct 24 2010, 01:27 PM
|- - bLePn   QUOTE (MacShepard @ Oct 24 2010, 01:27 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 02:59 PM
|- - MacShepard   QUOTE (bLePn @ Oct 24 2010, 08:59 PM) UNA...   Oct 24 2010, 03:33 PM
|- - bLePn   QUOTE (MacShepard @ Oct 24 2010, 03:33 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 05:38 PM
- - Geki   I personally want the entire ATS album with about ...   Oct 24 2010, 01:28 PM
- - dkrebel   Lol.. This is pretty stupid. You can't expect ...   Oct 24 2010, 01:44 PM
- - Michelbeats   At this point they're in Promotion mode. They ...   Oct 24 2010, 02:20 PM
- - Rob_Wilson   I wouldn't say unacceptable, but the money the...   Oct 24 2010, 02:24 PM
- - lp_faint43   yes they should rotate the set list for sure! ...   Oct 24 2010, 02:29 PM
- - maik_gianino   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:16 PM) An...   Oct 24 2010, 02:30 PM
- - Pecan603   I see plenty of bands live who don't rotate th...   Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
- - franticfreak   In days with youtube and co. A band should rotate ...   Oct 24 2010, 03:27 PM
- - Tomer   QUOTE (dkrebel @ Oct 24 2010, 02:44 PM) L...   Oct 24 2010, 03:48 PM
- - unknown1019   there are fans that haven't heard "numb...   Oct 24 2010, 04:16 PM
|- - luki9875   QUOTE (unknown1019 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:16 P...   Oct 24 2010, 04:23 PM
|- - pianolp325   fans are never happy for some reason. the set that...   Oct 24 2010, 04:54 PM
- - Valentitix   Tomorrow night Paris will be my second show in 4 d...   Oct 24 2010, 04:56 PM
- - Faint!ntoPieces   Bitch bitch moan moan... Be grateful most you guys...   Oct 24 2010, 05:34 PM
|- - lerkid   QUOTE (Faint!ntoPieces @ Oct 24 2010, 03...   Oct 24 2010, 08:59 PM
- - linkin_boss   Good lord. this is way too much. I have seen LP li...   Oct 24 2010, 05:51 PM
- - rav0k   I've already stated my opinion in another thre...   Oct 24 2010, 06:02 PM
- - jessiexo   I do think it kind of sucks for people going to mu...   Oct 24 2010, 06:11 PM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (jessiexo @ Oct 24 2010, 06:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 06:14 PM
- - Astat   I think the band should be given the benefit of th...   Oct 24 2010, 06:53 PM
- - andydlp   Fan #1 - "Yes, they finally played With You a...   Oct 24 2010, 06:54 PM
|- - Xero21   QUOTE (andydlp @ Oct 24 2010, 07:54 PM) F...   Oct 24 2010, 06:58 PM
|- - DanyWoker   QUOTE (andydlp @ Oct 25 2010, 01:54 AM) F...   Dec 25 2010, 03:42 PM
- - Narc85   i want to preface what i'm about to say by let...   Oct 24 2010, 07:29 PM
|- - Braininator   QUOTE (Narc85 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:29 AM) no...   Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM
|- - Narc85   QUOTE (Braininator @ Oct 25 2010, 08:44 A...   Oct 24 2010, 07:49 PM
- - AGumby   OK. How about when they play somewhere new and jus...   Oct 24 2010, 07:50 PM
- - arbiter   The argument that because a lot of fans who are at...   Oct 24 2010, 08:05 PM
- - deadnbloated   when linkin park is onstage 5 feet in front of me,...   Oct 24 2010, 08:31 PM
|- - linkin_boss   QUOTE (deadnbloated @ Oct 24 2010, 10:31 ...   Oct 24 2010, 08:52 PM
|- - jessiexo   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 09:20 PM
|- - andydlp   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 09:44 PM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 09:11 PM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 09:36 AM
- - BrandonR24   I know its kind of random, but I think they should...   Oct 24 2010, 09:59 PM
- - stonecoldnimrod   all you babies need to stop cryin. if u don't ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:27 PM
|- - Michael   QUOTE (stonecoldnimrod @ Oct 24 2010, 10...   Oct 24 2010, 11:18 PM
- - ksedude   QUOTE (BrandonR24 @ Oct 24 2010, 09:59 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 10:50 PM
|- - linkin_boss   QUOTE (ksedude @ Oct 25 2010, 12:50 AM) I...   Oct 24 2010, 11:15 PM
- - LPxDC   I dont usually have a problem with setlists. Out o...   Oct 24 2010, 11:37 PM
|- - Hahninator   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 12:37 AM) I d...   Oct 25 2010, 07:13 AM
|- - LPxDC   QUOTE (Hahninator @ Oct 25 2010, 08:13 AM...   Oct 25 2010, 10:31 AM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 10:31 AM) and...   Oct 25 2010, 12:04 PM
|- - LPxDC   QUOTE (rav0k @ Oct 25 2010, 01:04 PM) Hey...   Oct 25 2010, 12:06 PM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 12:06 PM) lol...   Oct 25 2010, 12:09 PM
- - blaster667   The majority of the people that go to the shows, t...   Oct 24 2010, 11:58 PM
|- - jessiexo   QUOTE (blaster667 @ Oct 25 2010, 12:58 AM...   Oct 25 2010, 12:14 AM
|- - LMK   QUOTE (jessiexo @ Oct 25 2010, 12:14 AM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 12:44 AM
- - Jozzie   I personally think that they should drop 'New ...   Oct 25 2010, 05:51 AM
- - Lordofdonuts   I'm going to Paris today, even if the setlist ...   Oct 25 2010, 05:58 AM
- - vitorpacheco   It was sad when they played the intro for What I...   Oct 25 2010, 07:22 AM
- - stonecoldnimrod   so when in the blue hell are the dsp downloads bei...   Oct 25 2010, 01:16 PM
|- - LPU90   QUOTE (stonecoldnimrod @ Oct 25 2010, 02...   Oct 27 2010, 03:32 AM
- - aravind221   agreed the set list should be changed as the fans...   Oct 29 2010, 03:34 AM
- - awesomekittyrawr   QUOTE (Jozzie @ Oct 25 2010, 06:51 AM) I ...   Dec 25 2010, 04:59 PM
|- - Hahninator   QUOTE (awesomekittyrawr @ Dec 25 2010, 05...   Dec 25 2010, 10:07 PM
- - Geki   I've been to 9 LP shows and most of them have ...   Dec 25 2010, 08:44 PM
- - Mr X   I like the current setlist but i'd like to see...   Dec 26 2010, 04:04 AM


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