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post Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM
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Some of the fans in Germany and other European countries have voiced their concerns to us regarding LP playing the exact same set three nights in a row. We all unanimously agree that something should be done about this considering ticket prices are higher than they've ever been, but also because of the fact that more and more fans are seeing multiple shows on the same tour. This is arguably one of LP's biggest European tours ever and for them to not rotate their sets, in the minds of some people, is unacceptable.

So we ask that if you agree with this, maybe because it's the 10th anniversary of Hybrid Theory and you'd like to hear more songs from it, or because you just think LP should play more than the singles and new stuff live, or if you just want to hear something different...then we ask that you could either post a comment on Mike's blog, ask the band about it at a M&G, or even tag it on Twitter with the hashtag "LProtatesetlists" or something.

What do you guys think about this? People that have seen the shows or people that are following the tour intensely, or even people that have seen the band many times in one tour - what do you think about this? Should they just rotate next year (with arguably a smaller European tour) or should they try and start now? Is there no excuse for not rotating now and playing different songs live, or is there an excuse?

What do you think LPLive?


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post Oct 24 2010, 08:05 PM
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The argument that because a lot of fans who are attending more than one LP show on this particular European tour warrants a rotating set list doesn't hold much weight like i said before because those group of fans are such a small percentage in comparison to the group of fans who are attending only one show. Each show on this particular European tour has a larger group of different fans for each show which makes the current set list okay because there is always going to be the larger group who don't belong on any fansite perusing LP's set list for which the show will be a surprise to them. All the people complaining are called the vocal minority. They are not the majority but because they scream the loudest, it seems like they are much greater than they actually are.

Another thing that grates on my nerves is the whole "do something for the hardcore fans and play more Hybrid Theory" or the typical whine "play some more old stuff" speil. WTF? Besides the fact that this is all just the whole wanting-what-you-don't-have syndrome at play, since when did Crawling, Papercut, One Step Closer & In the End become new stuff? And since when did hardcore fans become the term to describe the fans who only want LP to play non-single stuff from Hybrid Theory & Meteora which is what the bitching is really about.

And at the end of the day, every fans ideal set list is so diverse due to everyone's personal taste and preference, it is pointless to even debate what sort of set list would be an improvement because they are biased. For example, my ideal set list involves the band playing all of A Thousand Suns with nothing from Meteora except Breaking the Habit & Easier to Run, and everything from MTM with the exception of In Between, Given Up, Shadow of the Day, & Leave Out All The Rest and from HT, Only Crawling, Papercut, Pushing me Away and A Place For My Head. My set list is biased because i prefer Chester's singing voice over his screaming voice so the songs i want reflects that. And i consider Meteora to be their worst album so it reflects on my setlist. I also think ATS is their best so my set list reflects that too. And so on and so on so ideal set list? Nonexistent.

Once the band returns to the states, i plan to attend more than one show simply because ATS has got me pumped to see it performed live. Do i expect the band to cater to me? Not really. It would be nice if they did something that i wanted.
And if people feel so passionate about the set list, how about posing your suggestions to the band at M&Gs and see what happens. They've played songs requested by fans before at a M&G so you never know.

If LP decided to play another European tour next year, then i say the need for a rotating set -list with an altered set list is warranted to some degree. But, people will still bitch about it anyways which is all cool and predictable at this point.







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- AndOne   Live Setlists   Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM
- - tschenneck   I will do everything I can to get Mikes attention ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:24 AM
- - ana   Im gonna talk to mike about this on wednesday, or ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:29 AM
- - DecanoLP   I think they will ignore hashtags or comments on T...   Oct 24 2010, 10:29 AM
- - Qwerty18   Some comments on Mike's blog will not change a...   Oct 24 2010, 10:32 AM
- - majorfort   The dream thing that they should do is play HT in ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:33 AM
- - CitizenErased   I definitely think it sucks for the people who see...   Oct 24 2010, 10:34 AM
- - sian18   i love ATS and cant wait to here songs off it live...   Oct 24 2010, 10:34 AM
- - AndOne   Nobody expects them to take out any of the the ATS...   Oct 24 2010, 10:36 AM
- - michaLPLP   I agree. they have enough songs to switch the setl...   Oct 24 2010, 10:44 AM
- - SpikeMinoda   QUOTE (AndOne @ Oct 24 2010, 05:36 PM) No...   Oct 24 2010, 10:56 AM
- - TnkA   look i think it being the 10th Bday of HT, we just...   Oct 24 2010, 10:56 AM
- - sckofelng   I am completely with you. But i think the only opp...   Oct 24 2010, 10:57 AM
- - Xero21   Maybe I'd just feel grateful to be seeing them...   Oct 24 2010, 10:59 AM
|- - cristianoz   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:59 AM) Ma...   Oct 24 2010, 11:08 AM
|- - AndOne   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 05:59 PM) Af...   Oct 24 2010, 11:16 AM
- - bLePn   This is honestly a news post? Yeah, it does suck f...   Oct 24 2010, 11:04 AM
- - feelthless   A big "rotation" isn't needed. I thi...   Oct 24 2010, 11:07 AM
- - wiiesel   LP fans always find something to bitch about ^^ Of...   Oct 24 2010, 11:12 AM
- - Smarky   QUOTE (AndOne @ Oct 24 2010, 10:20 AM) So...   Oct 24 2010, 11:13 AM
|- - DecanoLP   QUOTE (Smarky @ Oct 24 2010, 11:13 AM) Ar...   Oct 24 2010, 11:17 AM
- - Xero21   And no offense, but we're really doing this on...   Oct 24 2010, 11:16 AM
- - sublimeric   It's all about reaching as many people as poss...   Oct 24 2010, 11:38 AM
- - CitizenErased   When LP suppose to do those poll songs? That would...   Oct 24 2010, 11:41 AM
- - venom12   YEs dont take out ats song just change old stuffs ...   Oct 24 2010, 11:42 AM
- - Hahninator   Well yeah I would say this is a HUGE tour for Euro...   Oct 24 2010, 11:44 AM
- - Mofamike   I wish they play something like that: Step up/Nob...   Oct 24 2010, 11:56 AM
- - Pez   PERSONALLY I would like setlists like they had bac...   Oct 24 2010, 12:21 PM
- - MacShepard   In my opinion, is unacceptable to not rotate sets....   Oct 24 2010, 01:27 PM
|- - bLePn   QUOTE (MacShepard @ Oct 24 2010, 01:27 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 02:59 PM
|- - MacShepard   QUOTE (bLePn @ Oct 24 2010, 08:59 PM) UNA...   Oct 24 2010, 03:33 PM
|- - bLePn   QUOTE (MacShepard @ Oct 24 2010, 03:33 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 05:38 PM
- - Geki   I personally want the entire ATS album with about ...   Oct 24 2010, 01:28 PM
- - dkrebel   Lol.. This is pretty stupid. You can't expect ...   Oct 24 2010, 01:44 PM
- - Michelbeats   At this point they're in Promotion mode. They ...   Oct 24 2010, 02:20 PM
- - Rob_Wilson   I wouldn't say unacceptable, but the money the...   Oct 24 2010, 02:24 PM
- - lp_faint43   yes they should rotate the set list for sure! ...   Oct 24 2010, 02:29 PM
- - maik_gianino   QUOTE (Xero21 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:16 PM) An...   Oct 24 2010, 02:30 PM
- - Pecan603   I see plenty of bands live who don't rotate th...   Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
- - franticfreak   In days with youtube and co. A band should rotate ...   Oct 24 2010, 03:27 PM
- - Tomer   QUOTE (dkrebel @ Oct 24 2010, 02:44 PM) L...   Oct 24 2010, 03:48 PM
- - unknown1019   there are fans that haven't heard "numb...   Oct 24 2010, 04:16 PM
|- - luki9875   QUOTE (unknown1019 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:16 P...   Oct 24 2010, 04:23 PM
|- - pianolp325   fans are never happy for some reason. the set that...   Oct 24 2010, 04:54 PM
- - Valentitix   Tomorrow night Paris will be my second show in 4 d...   Oct 24 2010, 04:56 PM
- - Faint!ntoPieces   Bitch bitch moan moan... Be grateful most you guys...   Oct 24 2010, 05:34 PM
|- - lerkid   QUOTE (Faint!ntoPieces @ Oct 24 2010, 03...   Oct 24 2010, 08:59 PM
- - linkin_boss   Good lord. this is way too much. I have seen LP li...   Oct 24 2010, 05:51 PM
- - rav0k   I've already stated my opinion in another thre...   Oct 24 2010, 06:02 PM
- - jessiexo   I do think it kind of sucks for people going to mu...   Oct 24 2010, 06:11 PM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (jessiexo @ Oct 24 2010, 06:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 06:14 PM
- - Astat   I think the band should be given the benefit of th...   Oct 24 2010, 06:53 PM
- - andydlp   Fan #1 - "Yes, they finally played With You a...   Oct 24 2010, 06:54 PM
|- - Xero21   QUOTE (andydlp @ Oct 24 2010, 07:54 PM) F...   Oct 24 2010, 06:58 PM
|- - DanyWoker   QUOTE (andydlp @ Oct 25 2010, 01:54 AM) F...   Dec 25 2010, 03:42 PM
- - Narc85   i want to preface what i'm about to say by let...   Oct 24 2010, 07:29 PM
|- - Braininator   QUOTE (Narc85 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:29 AM) no...   Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM
|- - Narc85   QUOTE (Braininator @ Oct 25 2010, 08:44 A...   Oct 24 2010, 07:49 PM
- - AGumby   OK. How about when they play somewhere new and jus...   Oct 24 2010, 07:50 PM
- - deadnbloated   when linkin park is onstage 5 feet in front of me,...   Oct 24 2010, 08:31 PM
|- - linkin_boss   QUOTE (deadnbloated @ Oct 24 2010, 10:31 ...   Oct 24 2010, 08:52 PM
- - BlacK0uT   Oh jeez... I'm pulling out the Advil now... ...   Oct 24 2010, 09:11 PM
|- - jessiexo   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 09:20 PM
|- - andydlp   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) ...   Oct 24 2010, 09:44 PM
|- - MrCinder   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 10:11 PM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 01:02 AM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (BlacK0uT @ Oct 24 2010, 09:11 PM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 09:36 AM
- - BrandonR24   I know its kind of random, but I think they should...   Oct 24 2010, 09:59 PM
- - stonecoldnimrod   all you babies need to stop cryin. if u don't ...   Oct 24 2010, 10:27 PM
|- - Michael   QUOTE (stonecoldnimrod @ Oct 24 2010, 10...   Oct 24 2010, 11:18 PM
- - ksedude   QUOTE (BrandonR24 @ Oct 24 2010, 09:59 PM...   Oct 24 2010, 10:50 PM
|- - linkin_boss   QUOTE (ksedude @ Oct 25 2010, 12:50 AM) I...   Oct 24 2010, 11:15 PM
- - LPxDC   I dont usually have a problem with setlists. Out o...   Oct 24 2010, 11:37 PM
|- - Hahninator   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 12:37 AM) I d...   Oct 25 2010, 07:13 AM
|- - LPxDC   QUOTE (Hahninator @ Oct 25 2010, 08:13 AM...   Oct 25 2010, 10:31 AM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 10:31 AM) and...   Oct 25 2010, 12:04 PM
|- - LPxDC   QUOTE (rav0k @ Oct 25 2010, 01:04 PM) Hey...   Oct 25 2010, 12:06 PM
|- - rav0k   QUOTE (LPxDC @ Oct 25 2010, 12:06 PM) lol...   Oct 25 2010, 12:09 PM
- - blaster667   The majority of the people that go to the shows, t...   Oct 24 2010, 11:58 PM
|- - jessiexo   QUOTE (blaster667 @ Oct 25 2010, 12:58 AM...   Oct 25 2010, 12:14 AM
|- - LMK   QUOTE (jessiexo @ Oct 25 2010, 12:14 AM) ...   Oct 25 2010, 12:44 AM
- - Jozzie   I personally think that they should drop 'New ...   Oct 25 2010, 05:51 AM
- - Lordofdonuts   I'm going to Paris today, even if the setlist ...   Oct 25 2010, 05:58 AM
- - vitorpacheco   It was sad when they played the intro for What I...   Oct 25 2010, 07:22 AM
- - stonecoldnimrod   so when in the blue hell are the dsp downloads bei...   Oct 25 2010, 01:16 PM
|- - LPU90   QUOTE (stonecoldnimrod @ Oct 25 2010, 02...   Oct 27 2010, 03:32 AM
- - aravind221   agreed the set list should be changed as the fans...   Oct 29 2010, 03:34 AM
- - awesomekittyrawr   QUOTE (Jozzie @ Oct 25 2010, 06:51 AM) I ...   Dec 25 2010, 04:59 PM
|- - Hahninator   QUOTE (awesomekittyrawr @ Dec 25 2010, 05...   Dec 25 2010, 10:07 PM
- - Geki   I've been to 9 LP shows and most of them have ...   Dec 25 2010, 08:44 PM
- - Mr X   I like the current setlist but i'd like to see...   Dec 26 2010, 04:04 AM


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