hahninator Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Proposed rules, drafted by Dmitry and Serg and I:1. If the entire band is on a stage performing two or three songs at some event/TV spot, it is a show. The point is that the whole band was there and there being an actual stage/set. Length of setlist shouldn't matter...if we get into that we really get technical and have to analyze a LOT of shows. 2. If they performed with the intent of sharing that performance with fans (so either fans were there or it was recorded to be released online or broadcast) then it counts as a show. Example: AOL Sessions would be counted as a show, even if the entire audience was digital. This handles the 2007 random rehearsals. 3. If there were two performances at different venues on the same day for whatever reason - count them as two shows. This occurs in 2008 twice. 4. Rehearsals: If they play a show/rehearsal, take a break, then play another show, same stage, same fans, same day, it's one show (Sunrise 2011, Madrid 2010). If the rehearsal is on a different date and to different fans, it counts as two shows (WPB 2014, Bristow 2012). The one odd performance in the entire guide is the Machine Shop 2015 acoustic set. Zero way for any fans to get into that and it wasn't released - we can't count it. Also was just a partial band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Proposed rules, drafted by Dmitry and Serg and I: 1. If the entire band is on a stage performing two or three songs at some event/TV spot, it is a show. The point is that the whole band was there and there being an actual stage/set. Length of setlist shouldn't matter...if we get into that we really get technical and have to analyze a LOT of shows. 2. If they performed with the intent of sharing that performance with fans (so either fans were there or it was recorded to be released online or broadcast) then it counts as a show. Example: AOL Sessions would be counted as a show, even if the entire audience was digital. This handles the 2007 random rehearsals. 3. If there were two performances at different venues on the same day for whatever reason - count them as two shows. This occurs in 2008 twice. 4. Rehearsals: If they play a show/rehearsal, take a break, then play another show, same stage, same fans, same day, it's one show (Sunrise 2011, Madrid 2010). If the rehearsal is on a different date and to different fans, it counts as two shows (WPB 2014, Bristow 2012). The one odd performance in the entire guide is the Machine Shop 2015 acoustic set. Zero way for any fans to get into that and it wasn't released - we can't count it. Also was just a partial band. You know what, it's fine the way you guys are doing it, doesn't bother me, and it makes sense to do it that way. But yeah, that Machine Shop 2015 acoustic set shouldn't count, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 2000 2 + 15 + 3 + 34 + 22 + 12 =88 2001 not counting: endsession seattle http://lplive.net/shows/db/2001/20010126-1 6 + 20 + 20 + 21 + 45 + 1 + 11 + 29 + 12 =165 2002 =21 2003 18 + 12 + 1 + 23 + 10 + 11 + 10 =85 2004 34 + 10 + 33 =77 2005 =2 2006 =5 2007 (counting the Third Encore promo performances) 7 + 10 + 18 + 32 + 10 + 11 =88 2008 11 + 19 + 18 + 26 =74 2009 =19 2010 not counting berlin rehearsal http://lplive.net/shows/db/2010/20101019 6 + 16 + 11 =33 2011 not counting sunrise rehearsal http://lplive.net/shows/db/2011/20110120-1 not counting a thousand horizons japan http://lplive.net/shows/db/2011/20110909 22 + 2 + 17 + 11 =52 2012 4 + 13 + 5 + 24 + 10 =56 COUNTING rio+social. 2013 not counting salt lake city w/ chester/phoenix http://lplive.net/shows/db/2013/20130628 =17 2014 not counting UCLA evening w/ mike/chester http://lplive.net/shows/db/2014/20140321 3 + 14 + 30 + 18 =65 2015 not counting machine shop acoustic http://lplive.net/shows/db/2015/20150113 11 + 5 + 13 =29 2016: 0 my total number of where LP is at right now at the end of 2016: 876http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=11819&do=findComment&comment=254678 Had 881 there. Minus the extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Here's a list of what we should NOT count: http://lplive.net/shows/db/2001/20010126-1 I don't think we should count separate performances on the same day. If we count Endsession/Seattle 2001 as two shows then we have to count Jimmy Kimmel Live and iHeartRadio Theater 2x in 2014 and also Madrid EMA 2010 + rehearsal 2x. That makes no sense, if they played the same day for a rehearsal or soundcheck party or something, just count it once. That means we can remove Sunrise 2011 preshow rehearsal etc from the count. I agree with what you meant but not with how you wrote it. For example In 2008 the band played Lisboa then Madrid on the same day/date and according to how this rule was written we should count those as one which obviously doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 I agree with what you meant but not with how you wrote it. For example In 2008 the band played Lisboa then Madrid on the same day/date and according to how this rule was written we should count those as one which obviously doesn't make any sense. I mean at the same venue. Yes, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Bump for 2017. 876 Linkin Park shows to start 2017. List of everything counted vs not counted. Shows with the strikethrough are not counted as Linkin Park full band performances intended for the public. 2017.02.16 NRG Studios 2017.02.27 James Corden - Show #877 2017.02.28 Mercedes-AMG Shoot 2017.03.06 Warner Bros. Party 2017.04.06 ECHO 2017 Currently the number of performances on the 2017 page is 18 and that number is correct/accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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