Live Setlists Options

[unknown1019]

there are fans that haven't heard "numb" live even once because of geographic and various other reasons and you guys are complaining about them playing the same ~25 songs in your area... there are more important things to consider. Plus a casual fan would rather hear "in the end" then "with you". it's about making the most people happy, and singles do the job. it's the fact of the business.

[luki9875]

there are fans that haven't heard "numb" live even once because of geographic and various other reasons and you guys are complaining about them playing the same ~25 songs in your area... there are more important things to consider. Plus a casual fan would rather hear "in the end" then "with you". it's about making the most people happy, and singles do the job. it's the fact of the business.

that.

[pianolp325]

fans are never happy for some reason. the set that they are rockin now is probably one of the best they have ever used. im not gonna protest to lp and try to get there attention about a setlist for a show that has so much put into it(lights, video, effects, multiple instruments) everythin has to be planned out well. and thats what they did. it is a world tour and its not just for the fans who have been there forever, they want people to love there music and shows and to do that they need to have consistent shows where they play the songs that people love. if they start rotating set list they will probably do it in the states but i dont see it happening for a while and complaining about it is kinda childish.

[Valentitix]

Tomorrow night Paris will be my second show in 4 days (and my last for 2010) i deal with the setlist btw i like it ! i never seen live: in pieces TLGYA and some other and i would love to... but that's life it's ok!

Most important thing to me : they have a real fun time with thoses songs and crowd !

Youtube don't give the feeling of a reel show you see what you will have not what you will life !

(sorry if some sentence are incorrect)

[Faint!ntoPieces]

Bitch bitch moan moan... Be grateful most you guys have at least BEEN to a Linkin Park concert because they travel to your country a thousand and one times a year.

Get off your high chairs. Jesus.

[bLePn]

Selfish/ungrateful?!?!
If I were just like you say I would given up on LP but no.
Actually, this year I´m buying the discrogaphy of band and I've become a LPU member. I have A Thousand Suns too and I like it.
I think ungrateful is LP not play older songs that put them on the top.
I've seen them twice here. Me and I know that very people would be disappointed of spending money in travels to see 3 shows with the same set. Of course the oportunity to see them is FANTASTIC but in 3 nights hear the same songs is kind of disappointing.

Now, try to make a civilized and respectful reply. I always said in my opinion, so I am not obliged to have the same opinion than you and vice-versa.

You need to have better reasons to justify "your opinion" or else it's just a false statement.

there are fans that haven't heard "numb" live even once because of geographic and various other reasons and you guys are complaining about them playing the same ~25 songs in your area... there are more important things to consider. Plus a casual fan would rather hear "in the end" then "with you". it's about making the most people happy, and singles do the job. it's the fact of the business.

What that guy said

[linkin_boss]

Good lord. this is way too much. I have seen LP live just once. this year, btw. and I would prefer ten thousand times having them playing just one fucking setlist per tour, and coming just once, than having rotating setlist and coming once per decade! some guys never get enough.

And don't misunderstand me, I would like to see them playing different songs but, that's their desicion, just a few bands rotate setlist, most of them don't. and I Recall correctly they waited around 5 months during the MTM tour to rotate setlist, I don't see why it cant be that way this time.

This post has been edited by linkin_boss: Oct 24 2010, 05:53 PM

[rav0k]

I've already stated my opinion in another thread.

I think it's very rude and disrespectful for people to be demanding a different setlist. Yeah, it would be pretty awesome for them to rotate it and add some new shit..but the bottom line is it's not their fault that you are attending multiple shows for a tour.

Their setlist IS new and different. If their setlist was the same for 10 years on different tours, then I would understand. If you don't like the setlist, stop going to the multiple shows.

If you enjoy going to the multiple shows, then appreciate what you have. That's simple math, really.

This post has been edited by rav0k: Oct 24 2010, 06:07 PM

[jessiexo]

I do think it kind of sucks for people going to multiple shows, but the band didn't promise anything so it's not really fair to blame them. Also, I'd just be happy for going to their show and if they played quite a few around my city, it'd be great!

Honestly, they do more than most bands and it seems like the more they do, the more the fans whine. A lot of bands only have one set and their fans attend shows happily. They have free meet and greets, then people complain about how they only get 30 seconds with the band, they make it longer, the fans complain that there are only two members. They change all of that, people complain about the price raise. They're people too and they can't accommodate everyone. I'm not kissing their asses or anything, just saying.

Edit: attend shows happily not don't attend..

This post has been edited by jessiexo: Oct 24 2010, 06:23 PM

[rav0k]

They're people too and they can't accommodate everyone. I'm not kissing their asses or anything, just saying.

You're just speaking truth. No harm done.

[Astat]

I think the band should be given the benefit of the doubt as far as rotating setlists goes at this point, they haven't played live in over a year and they have an entire album's worth of material that they're still getting acquainted with on stage. Nobody complained about the non-rotating setlists for the first couple months of the MTM touring cycle...oh wait, that's because they had never done it at that point, so nobody expected them to. It's just as ridiculous to expect the band to always rotate their setlists as it is to expect them to always do anything else (close shows with One Step Closer, make the same kind of music every time they do a new album, etc.).

Hey, everybody seems to think LP should just go back to being the same band they were in 2004, and they didn't rotate their setlists then, so maybe they're taking the advice of their fanbase! You guys should be excited!

[andydlp]

Fan #1 - "Yes, they finally played With You again on tour and it was just as awesome as I remember it"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, I suppose, but I would've preferred if they played APFMH!"

Fan #1 - "But dude, they also finally played No Roads Left and it was totally badass!"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, but Across The Line would've be soooo much better to play than NRL"

Fan #1 - "Wow man, you're tough to please aren't you?"

Fan #2 - "Hey man, I paid my hard earned money for this ticket in the hope they'd play some of the older/rarer tracks instead of the same stuff they always play!"

Fan #1 - "You know what, you're right! Stay right there while I ask the other 20,000 people at this show if they agree with you!!!"

Morale of the story...there's no pleasing everyone and by everyone I mean the MILLIONS of LP fans around the world!

You want rotating setlists or classic songs like With You or A Place for my head??? Then watch the Live in Texas dvd or go on YouTube!

Rant over!

[Xero21]

Fan #1 - "Yes, they finally played With You again on tour and it was just as awesome as I remember it"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, I suppose, but I would've preferred if they played APFMH!"

Fan #1 - "But dude, they also finally played No Roads Left and it was totally badass!"

Fan #2 - "Yeah, but Across The Line would've be soooo much better to play than NRL"

Fan #1 - "Wow man, you're tough to please aren't you?"

Fan #2 - "Hey man, I paid my hard earned money for this ticket in the hope they'd play some of the older/rarer tracks instead of the same stuff they always play!"

Fan #1 - "You know what, you're right! Stay right there while I ask the other 20,000 people at this show if they agree with you!!!"

Morale of the story...there's no pleasing everyone and by everyone I mean the MILLIONS of LP fans around the world!

You want rotating setlists or classic songs like With You or A Place for my head??? Then watch the Live in Texas dvd or go on YouTube!

Rant over!

I love you so much right now.

[Narc85]

i want to preface what i'm about to say by letting you all know that i am attending EIGHT shows this year...

but i still believe the choice of what to play is entirely up to the band and i can not agree to this

when creating a setlist - bands shouldn't be forced to think 'oh, but what if some of our fans are that committed they are coming to several shows... we should really cater to them'. think about it... those of us attending multiple shows are a minority. while i'd absolutely LOVE to see a different set played at each show - i know i can't expect that... so anything different that may happen will simply be a bonus in my eyes.

not sure if any of you are familiar with the aussie band silverchair? they were big in the states many years ago with their first two albums frogstomp and freak show... you may remember the singles 'tomorrow', 'israel's son', 'abuse me', 'freak' and maybe even 'ana's song (open fire)'. they recently charted again with their tracks 'straight lines' and 'the greatest view'.

i'm a bit of an obsessive fan of theirs too - and honest to god, in the last 2/3 years - their setlist has essentially remained the same... and i'm literally talking 2/3 years - not 2/3 shows.

i think LP have a pretty killer setlist with the one they are playing now... and i still think it's WAY early days to start panicking about it not rotating.

maybe we should wait before protesting?

This post has been edited by Narc85: Oct 24 2010, 07:30 PM

[Braininator]

not sure if any of you are familiar with the aussie band silverchair? they were big in the states many years ago with their first two albums frogstomp and freak show... you may remember the singles 'tomorrow', 'israel's son', 'abuse me', 'freak' and maybe even 'ana's song (open fire)'. they recently charted again with their tracks 'straight lines' and 'the greatest view'.

i'm a bit of an obsessive fan of theirs too - and honest to god, in the last 2/3 years - their setlist has essentially remained the same... and i'm literally talking 2/3 years - not 2/3 shows.

Define "essentially". During their peak touring period for Young Modern in 06-08, yes, they kept a similar structure to their set list, but there were quite a few song changes over that time.

I think for Linkin Park, at this early stage of the tour they need to have a consistent approach to how they promote A Thousand Suns (i.e. which ATS songs they play), but should be able to include variations in what older material is played.

And play Blackout in Australia.

[Narc85]

Define "essentially". During their peak touring period for Young Modern in 06-08, yes, they kept a similar structure to their set list, but there were quite a few song changes over that time.

hehe, totally didn't expect anyone else from australia to pipe up about this

the actual young modern tour was pretty good in terms of setlist - saw them at both perth shows and each were substantially different from the other - a few song changes as well as the order in which they were played... but after their joint tour with powderfinger - the sets were barely different - BDO through to groovin the moo - in fact, all groovin the moo shows were identical, except for the first two where they played young modern station at the beginning (pretty sure that song opened every show starting with the across the great divide tour?). saw them at all groovin' the moo shows and still enjoyed em heaps!

[AGumby]

OK. How about when they play somewhere new and just play the "greatest hits setlist" and when they go to a place where they've played lots of times switch up some songs but don't take out new songs unless your switching from one new song to another as you should be promoting a new album. I know lots of bands that don't changed their setlists throughout a tour bit if they play something like 2/3 nights at one place then they do switch up the setlist for that place. For example Slipknot in 2008 played 3 nights at the Hammersmith Apollo and they changed 1/2 songs around so if people were coming to the shows they didn't see the same show twice. KoRn who have been playing a pretty much constant set on theor current European tour have been switching some songs around but it's only small like 1-3 but to some people that makes all the difference especially when prives have been raised. If a band is playing the same venue a couple of nights in a row they should switch it up because other wise unless all of the shows are sold out the need for another show isn't really justified.

LP probably won't come back and do another European tour like this one they'll probably just do the festival circuit so some people are bound to lose out as some countries don't have big festivals that LP are likely to play at so they would not be able to take advantage from this if LP do rotate sets next year.

I'm not having a go at the setlist I like it but having variety wouldn't hurt and it amkes it so the set feels less stale.

This post has been edited by AGumby: Oct 24 2010, 07:51 PM

[arbiter]

The argument that because a lot of fans who are attending more than one LP show on this particular European tour warrants a rotating set list doesn't hold much weight like i said before because those group of fans are such a small percentage in comparison to the group of fans who are attending only one show. Each show on this particular European tour has a larger group of different fans for each show which makes the current set list okay because there is always going to be the larger group who don't belong on any fansite perusing LP's set list for which the show will be a surprise to them. All the people complaining are called the vocal minority. They are not the majority but because they scream the loudest, it seems like they are much greater than they actually are.

Another thing that grates on my nerves is the whole "do something for the hardcore fans and play more Hybrid Theory" or the typical whine "play some more old stuff" speil. WTF? Besides the fact that this is all just the whole wanting-what-you-don't-have syndrome at play, since when did Crawling, Papercut, One Step Closer & In the End become new stuff? And since when did hardcore fans become the term to describe the fans who only want LP to play non-single stuff from Hybrid Theory & Meteora which is what the bitching is really about.

And at the end of the day, every fans ideal set list is so diverse due to everyone's personal taste and preference, it is pointless to even debate what sort of set list would be an improvement because they are biased. For example, my ideal set list involves the band playing all of A Thousand Suns with nothing from Meteora except Breaking the Habit & Easier to Run, and everything from MTM with the exception of In Between, Given Up, Shadow of the Day, & Leave Out All The Rest and from HT, Only Crawling, Papercut, Pushing me Away and A Place For My Head. My set list is biased because i prefer Chester's singing voice over his screaming voice so the songs i want reflects that. And i consider Meteora to be their worst album so it reflects on my setlist. I also think ATS is their best so my set list reflects that too. And so on and so on so ideal set list? Nonexistent.

Once the band returns to the states, i plan to attend more than one show simply because ATS has got me pumped to see it performed live. Do i expect the band to cater to me? Not really. It would be nice if they did something that i wanted.
And if people feel so passionate about the set list, how about posing your suggestions to the band at M&Gs and see what happens. They've played songs requested by fans before at a M&G so you never know.

If LP decided to play another European tour next year, then i say the need for a rotating set -list with an altered set list is warranted to some degree. But, people will still bitch about it anyways which is all cool and predictable at this point.

[deadnbloated]

when linkin park is onstage 5 feet in front of me, i couldnt give a shit less if they rotate thier setlists. all this talk about giving the band notes or harassing them online is kind of weird

[linkin_boss]

when linkin park is onstage 5 feet in front of me, i couldnt give a shit less if they rotate thier setlists. all this talk about giving the band notes or harassing them online is kind of weird

hardcore lp fan = stalker, anyone (?). Just joking.